They
“Take your time.”
“Every one of the Leavers’ ways came into being by evolution, by a process of testing that began even before people had a word for it. No one said, ‘Okay, let’s form a committee to write up a set of laws for us to follow.’ None of these cultures were
Ishmael grunted. “You’re not necessarily getting at one specific thing. You’re exploring a deep complex of ideas, and you can’t expect to get to the bottom of it in twenty minutes.”
“True.”
“However, there is a point I set out to make here before we go on to other things, and I would like to make it.”
“Okay.”
“You see now that the Takers and the Leavers accumulate two entirely different kinds of knowledge.”
“Yes. The Takers accumulate knowledge about what works well for
“But not for
“Yes.”
“And this kind of knowledge is called what?”
“I don’t know what you mean.”
“Someone who knows what works well for people has what?”
“Well… wisdom?”
“Of course. Now, you know that the knowledge of what works well for production is what’s valued in your culture. In the same way, the knowledge of what works well for people is what’s valued in Leaver cultures. And every time the Takers stamp out a Leaver culture, a wisdom ultimately tested since the birth of mankind disappears from the world beyond recall, just as every time they stamp out a species of life, a life form ultimately tested since the birth of life disappears from the world beyond recall.”
“Ugly,” I said.
“Yes,” Ishmael said. “It is ugly.”
9
After a few minutes of head–scratching and earlobe–tugging, Ishmael sent me away for the night.
“I’m tired,” he explained. “And I’m too cold to think.”
ELEVEN
1
The drizzle continued, and when I arrived at noon the next day there wasn’t even anyone around to bribe. I had picked up two blankets for Ishmael at an Army–Navy store—and had one for myself to keep him in countenance. He accepted them with gruff thanks but seemed glad enough to put them to use. We sat for a while wallowing in our misery, then he reluctantly began.
“Shortly before my departure—I don’t remember what occasioned the question—you asked me when we were going to get to the story enacted by the Leavers.”
“Yes, that’s right.”
“Why are you interested in knowing that story?”
The question nonplussed me. “Why wouldn’t I be interested in knowing it?”
“I’m asking what the point is, in your mind. You know that Abel is all but dead.”
“Well… yes.”
“Then why learn the story he was enacting?”
“Again, why
Ishmael shook his head. “I don’t care to proceed on that basis. The fact that I can’t give you reasons for
He was clearly in a bad mood. I couldn’t blame him, but I couldn’t much sympathize either, since it was he who had insisted on having it this way.
He said: “Is it just a matter of curiosity for you?”
“No, I wouldn’t say that. You said in the beginning that two stories have been enacted here. I now know one of them. It seems natural that I’d want to know the other one.”
“Natural…” he said, as if it wasn’t a word he much liked. “I wish you could come up with something that has a bit more heft. Something that would give me the feeling I wasn’t the only one here who was supposed to be using his brain.”
“I’m afraid I don’t see what you’re getting at.”
“I know you don’t, and that’s what irks me. You’ve become a passive listener here, turning your brain off when you sit down and turning it on when you get up to leave.”
“I don’t think that’s true.”
“Then tell me why it isn’t just a waste of time for you to learn a story that is now all but extinguished.”
“Well,
“That’s not good enough. The fact that something is
I shrugged helplessly.
He shook his head, totally disgusted. “You really do think that learning this would be pointless. That’s obvious.”
“It’s not obvious to me.”
“Then you think it has a point?”
“Well… yes.”
“What point?”
“God… I
“No. I won’t proceed on that basis. I
“What would an authentic reason