SS: Was everything like it always is?

DD: Yes. Like always.

SS: Everybody played with different things?

DD: Yes. Mostly we all played Indians,

SS: Everybody played Indians?

DD: Yes. Everybody. I had blue lines,

SS: Did you? Blue lines… and everybody played, all the time?

DD: Well, almost. Almost all the time.

SS: Marie too? Did she play all the time?

DD: Yes, at first. But not later on.

SS: Not later on? Please tell me why she didn't play any more.

DD: She didn't like (inaudible) lines. I did. Then she went outside. She was cross because she wanted rings. Nobody else wanted rings 'cause everybody liked lines better. Lines like my (inaudible). And then I said to her that you must have lines too and she said no, I want rings, but nobody wanted to paint rings. And then she went outside. Nobody else wanted to go outside. It was too hot. We were allowed to stay in and we did. And we played Indians,

SS: Did you see when Marie went outside?

DD: No.

SS: Not at all?

DD: She just went. She was cross, I think,

SS: Did you see Marie later?

DD: Yes. Through the window.

SS: What did you see through the window?

DD: Marie and the pedal-car. She's almost never had it. And she got stuck.

SS: How do you mean, stuck?

DD: Stuck in the sandpit.

SS: She was in the pedal-car and it was stuck in the sandpit.

So what did Marie do next?

DD: She kicked it. The car.

SS: She kicked the car. Did she do anything else?

DD: And she said something,

SS: What did she say?

DD: I didn't hear.

SS: And what happened afterwards, after she had kicked the car and said something?

DD: The man came,

SS: What man?

DD: The man who came.

SS: Where were you?

DD: Inside. Looking out through the window.

SS: Was it far… were they far away?

DD: Ten.

SS: Ten what?

DD: Ten metres.

SS: Marie and the man were ten metres away?

DD: (inaudible)

SS: Do you know how far away ten metres is?

DD: It's quite far.

SS: But you're not quite sure exactly how far?

DD: No.

SS: Tell you what, David. Come over here to this window.

Look at the car over there. OK?

DD: OK.

SS: Is that car as far away as Marie and the man?

DD: Yes.

SS: Really truly?

DD: Yes, that's how far it was.

SS: And when the man had come along, what happened?

DD: He helped Marie lift the pedal-car. He was quite strong.

SS: Did anybody else see the man lifting the car?

DD: No. It was only me there. In the hall.

SS: No teacher?

DD: No. Only me.

SS: What did the man do afterwards?

DD: He said things to Marie.

SS: What did Marie do?

DD: She said things to him. They talked.

SS: What clothes did Marie have on?

DD: The same ones.

SS: The same as when?

DD: The same that she had on when she came to school.

SS: Can you remember what Marie had on? Colours and so on?

DD: She had a green T-shirt. Humpie has got one just like that.

SS: And?

DD: Her red shoes. Her best. With metal things,

SS: Metal things?

DD: For closing them. So they stay on.

SS: Trousers? Skirt?

DD: I can't remember,

SS: Maybe a skirt?

DD: Maybe. Not proper trousers, it was too hot.

SS: What about the man? What was he like?

DD: Big. And strong, he could lift the pedal-car out of the sandpit.

SS: Can you remember what he was wearing?

DD: Trousers. And a top. I think. And a baseball cap.

SS: What kind?

DD: The kind you have on your head.

SS: Can you remember anything about the cap?

DD: Yes. It was like the ones they sell in Statoil garages.

SS: What did Marie and the man do next?

DD: They walked away.

SS: Where did they go?

DD: To the gate. And the man fixed the thing.

SS: What did he fix?

DD: The lock-thing on the gate.

SS: The hook on top that you've got to lift straight up to open the gate?

DD: Yes. He did that,

SS: Then what did they do? DD: They went outside in the street. SS: Do you remember which way they walked?

DD: Just out. I couldn't see.

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