Then I saw you driving away.  Next thing I know, I'm following you

around the library.  When I saw what you was working on, I realized I

didn't have a fucking clue about what was going on, and I was like to

get myself in more trouble than be able to help myself.'

'But now you're coming clean anyway.'

'Well, when you said what you said earlier, I figured it was about the

only choice I had.  Larry sure as hell ain't gonna take care of me.'

It sounded credible.  I could see a guy like Billy Minkins feeling

desperate enough to follow me around while he tried to figure out what

to do.  Thanks to the local news, anyone who was curious could find out

what block I lived on from a search of the Internet.

'Did you tell Gunderson about the library?'  I asked.

'No way.  I hightailed it out of there and laid low.  I ain't saying

I'm perfect.  Hell, it's not like I'm blind it's not every businessman

who's gonna let a guy like me take care of an operation.  But no way

did I sign up to be in the middle of a murder trial and whatever crap

led up to it.'

'You certainly don't sound like someone who trusts Larry Gunderson.

How'd you hook up with him anyway?'

Minkins let out a chuckle.  'AA.  Court-ordered after my check-writing

scheme went awry.  I couldn't get work after that, and Larry'd been in

the program for years.  Fucking ironic, ain't it?'

There's a reason guys like Minkins wind up in the system.  Instead of

taking some responsibility for the decision that led him to this room,

he had found a way to blame it on the only chance a court had given him

to get his life under control.  But Minkins seemed to think I liked

him, so I kept my mouth shut.

'Do you know of any connection between Gunderson and Clarissa

Easterbrook?'

'Other than her body being found there?  Nope.'

'Do you know anything about Gunderson paying bribes or kickbacks to her

or any other public officials?'

'Nope, but I wouldn't put it past him.'

'Are you going to bother telling me what you're fishing for, Kincaid?'

Leave it to Lisa Lopez to think she's not doing her job unless she

butts in every once in a while.

'Me telling you what I think isn't part of this deal,' I said.  'What

matters is your client telling me what he knows, and I'm trying to make

sure he's done that.'

I asked a few more questions, but I couldn't get anything more out of

him.

Lopez could tell the debriefing was coming to a close.  'There you go,

Kincaid.  Billy never even broke the law, so I want assurances that he

doesn't face potential prosecution.  And his PO better not jam him up,

either.'

'But he hasn't given me anything, Lisa.  He said it himself.  He

doesn't know what happened.'

'You've got more than you had before.  And he might not know all the

details, but that's because he doesn't have anything to do with it.'

She was right.  That's the problem with our system of flipping.  Those

who have the most to trade are the ones least deserving of a break.  If

Minkins was telling the truth, he had some serious moral shortcomings

but he wasn't a murderer.

'Fine, but only after he passes a poly.'

Billy Minkins had his own priorities.  'And I want some protection.'

'Explain it to him.  Lisa.  I'm not exactly running a witness

protection program here.'

'Fuck that noise,' Minkins said.  'I get the impression you don't know

any more about what's going on than I do.  You turn me loose after

Gunderson knows I cut a deal, and I might wind up like that judge of

yours.'

Shoot.  Why didn't I think of that?

There was only one way to swing this, and it all depended on how badly

Billy wanted protection.  As it turned out, he was more scared than I

thought.

Lisa and I told Prescott's clerk that we were ready and returned to the

courtroom.  Thorpe and Gunderson were already there, presumably waiting

for Slip to call Gunderson to the stand pursuant to the subpoena.

'We're back on the record,' Judge Prescott made clear.  'Mr.  Minkins

has chosen to proceed with separate counsel, and he is now present and

represented by Lisa Lopez.  The motion to quash the subpoenas served

upon Larry Gunderson and William Minkins is quashed.  Mr.  Szlipkowsky,

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