started to say, “A hot dog?” and she says, “Thinnest sandwich you have.” I said, “That will be a grilled cheese.” She said, “Okay”. He didn’t say anything, and I waited for him to order, and he said, “Just coffee.” And I took the order. And when I went to pick up the tray, I noticed the ring— the way she was sitting. She was smiling and laughing all the time, real gay.
Q Excuse me. You said you noticed the ring, the way she was sitting?
A When I was at his window, the ring was on this finger, so I could see that. (Indicating.)
Q Indicating by that, you mean your wedding ring finger?
A Uh huh.
Q On her left hand?
A Uh huh.
Q Can you describe that ring?
A It was an enormous pearl, it was so big.
Q Anything else, in particular, about it?
A It looked really bigger, I guess, because the way her hand was. It looked like it went all the way around, because I could see the big part of the pearl.
Q Anything in addition to the pearl?
A No, just the pearl, and the dress she had on. The blue dress—I noticed that.
Q Again, if you recall, we showed you a coat that has two different types of material, the outside being linen, kind of dark blue, and the inside lining a silk material, like varied-colored blue.
A That’s what it was, a blue print dress.
Q The cloth that you saw, that lined this coat that we showed you last night, was the same material?
A As the dress.
Q Was it your impression that this woman had been drinking?
A Yes, she was—oh, I’d say, pretty drunk.
Q You’d say she was pretty drunk?
A Uh huh.
Q How about the man?
A No, he wasn’t. If he was drunk, he didn’t show it. He seemed very sober.
Q Can you describe this woman to us?
A She was thin, with short dark red hair and very pleasant—real nice personality, or seemed to have. The kind you look twice at her.
Q How old a woman do you think she was?
A I don’t know. I am not a very good judge of ages.
Q Well, as I recall, you are 29.
A I’d say she was older than I am.
Q How much older than you?
A Gee, I don’t know.
Q Well, could she have been 40 years old, in your opinion?
A She could have been.
Q I don’t want to put ideas in your mind, I want your best recollection, just trying to help you recollect, a little bit. How about the man, what did he look like?
A Dark, very thin. Thin face, had dark hair, hair combed straight back.
Q You say dark hair. Could it have been dark brown, or black?
A It was either black, or awfully dark brown.
Q Did it appear that he used some kind of preparation on it, that made it lay down?
A Oh, to make it lay down, maybe. I didn’t notice much. He had quite a thick head of hair. It wasn’t thick—it was receded back, a little bit. But he still had quite a bit of hair on top.
Q Lay down flat on top?
A Uh huh.
Q How old do you think he was?
A In his thirties—middle thirties, past.
Q Between thirty-five and forty, possibly?
A Uh huh.
Q What nationality would you think he might be?
A She, of course, I didn’t think about her being anything but just American—but for him, I’d take him for a Greek or Italian.
Q Greek or Italian. Is it possible he might have been Mexican or Spanish-type, Latin-type?
A He could have been. (Pause.) His tan was, seemed like he wasn’t dark enough to be a Mexican. ’Course, I know there’s lots of light ones, but—
Q Was there anything particular about the condition of her clothing, at this time?
A No, I didn’t notice. I noticed the dress she had on, when I first waited on them. I know it was low-necked, because the light was shining.
Q About this car. Since we have talked to you last night, have you thought of anything, at all, that might be distinguishing about the car, that could help us?
A No, I thought about the car, last night. I thought, too, it must have had a California license on it. If it had been an out-of-state license, I would have noticed it. We work for tips, and about 99% of the out-of-state cars, you never make anything out of, so you notice them. And I didn’t notice that the car didn’t have the California license on it, so chances are that it did.
Q How about dented fenders, or broken grill work, or anything like that? Do you recall anything—
A (Interrupting) I just noticed that the paint, the finish, was so dull.
Q Did you hear them—after they finished their order and paid you and left—did you hear or see them leave?
A No.
Q Did you, at any time, hear the car running?
A Huh uh. The car wasn’t running when I went to pick up the tray.
Q And you didn’t hear them drive away?
A No.
Q In other words, you wouldn’t know whether it had loud pipes or anything like that on it?
A No.
Q Then, I understand that you saw this car again, later on. When was that?
A Sunday morning, after the bar was closed. It must have been around 2:15 or a little after, because we
