ZetaTalk: Government

result for refusal to play an activist role.

Such was the case going into the 1997 Mars mission, where a probe was committed to examine plateaus on Mars long

claimed to hold a Sphinx-like head distinctively hominoid in appearance. Severely repressed in the past, shots from

various angle could excite discussion like no other object, as the face would be reveals undeniably as an artifact, not a

natural formation appearing to be a face only a certain angles create shadows giving this illusion. The cooperation of

NASA was imperative on this MJ12 mission, and critical points could be missed unrecoverable if absolutely

cooperation was not assured.

The 1997 Mar's Pathfinder probe, under the direction of Jurgen Rahe, had to have a

cooperative hand at the helm or face failure, in the view of MJ12, and thus after relentless

arguments with a man adamantly opposed to the new MJ12 policies, his termination was

arranged. This was not a decision arrived at casually, nor was it a quick decision. A

determination that a compromise was not possible, and that Rahe could not be removed from

his post in a timely manner, were factors in the decision. Highly visible operations such as

NASA probes do not allow wiggle room, and a displaced executive was sure to be

interviewed or endlessly hounded for comments. Such exposure, and the risk an angry Rahe

posed, were also factors in the decision. A competent and highly reluctant executive could not

be casually displaced, but a death by an accident seemingly caused by mother nature could be

arranged, and was deemed the less of two evils.

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ZetaTalk: Moon Landing

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ZetaTalk: Moon Landing

Note: written on May 15, 2002

A hot topic on the Internet and among conspiracy buffs is whether man ever indeed landed on the Moon, or all the

evidence provided to mankind is faked. As evidence of a fake is apparent wind blowing a flag, dust raised by landing

feet blowing about as though air were present to move it, shadows inappropriate for the Moon, and other evidence of

atmosphere or staging. Did man go to the Moon? Absolutely. Were dramatizations done in film theaters? Absolutely.

both occurred, and here's why.

As is often reported, the early Moon landings involved startled astronauts making statements on live feed about 'we

were not the first' and the like. Likewise, live video feed showed trash on the Moon giving evidence that activity had

occurred in the past, and perhaps the recent past. Evidence of awareness of the alien presence, or other information not

given to the general public, can often be discerned from what is not said as much as what is said. Why the 3 month

delay in reporting, by different media organizations, if approval to report was not a part of the process? Likewise, the

astronauts were on a need-to-know basis, as they were expected to be mobbed if they succeeded and went on the

lecture tour, often interviewed and the like, and slips were to be avoided by telling them as little as possible. Thus, they

were genuinely startled by what they found on the Moon, and their handlers in Houston were unaware of the degree of

evidence they would in fact find on the Moon. Oops! What to do? Lets just film some new footage, and release that,

instead.

NASA was aware that there were alien enclaves on the dark side of the Moon, but unaware of the trash on the visible

side. During early genetic engineering projects, the engineers often used the Moon as a lab, fearing and wishing to

avoid the large carnivores on Earth. During these genetic engineering episodes, they would scarcely be hiding on the

dark side of the Moon! Why hide? The aliens talking to NASA going into the Apollo missions were Service-to- Self,

part of Alternative 2, to set up camps off Earth as a survival means during the coming pole shift. They were on the dark

side as Service-to-Self aliens do not do density shifting well, ala the movie The Fly, and their masters do not allow

their minions to shift during missions, for this reason. Thus, they are in 3rd Density, highly visible from Earth should

they not be on the dark side of the Moon. NASA expected this, but discussion on past genetic engineering projects,

which were not done by the Service-to-Self, never came up!

The astronauts were read the riot act when they returned, having blabbered their first impressions on the Moon. It has

been obvious to those looking at the pattern that prior to this live feeds were the norm, and after delayed and only

partial release of video and audio was allowed. When a heavy job of intimidation is done, with death threats and worse

than death threats, it takes a lot to release this. Beat a dog each hour, viciously, for months, and then try to tell it that

was all in the past. The dog has lost trust, cowers, growls, avoids, and will likely never trust humans again most

certainly if not in the same company. NASA has not changed hands, is still the same agency, infiltrated by CIA, and

thus the astronauts, as their beaten dogs, are loath to trust.

Note: Below added during Nov 16, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

NASA of late has been dealing with its many failures, its inability to get a space station operational in time to stage

escape to Mars, and the months upon months of delays getting any shuttles up at all. Wanting to be a player, perhaps

be viewed as important by the elite with money and bunkers and guns, they hope to be influential in the