• Another version of the murder and the murder site!
• How were they killed? Why are there no witnesses?
9. The same issue adds yet another variant on the murder:[20]
'[...] 32 Jewish orphans in the woods who were lined up and then the Nazis deliberately drove their tanks over these children, crushing all of them, and compelled the accompanying 118 non-Jewish orphans to bury them.'
• Did the German armed forces have nothing more pressing to do than to engage in murderous tank maneuvers in the woods? The German tanks of that time were not very well motorized and quite slow, and poorly suited for use in the woods and for such a task. Their chains were only about 12 inches wide, while the ground clearance was large, approximately 18 inches. Close-range visibility out of tanks was very poor.
• Where are the witnesses from among the 118 non-Jewish orphans?
• How credible is it that the murderers would let 118 witnesses (children!) watch?
10. W. H. Lawrence reports from Kyiv:[21]
'50,000 Kyiv Jews Reported Killed.'
• Instead of specifics regarding the place, date, murder weapons and further evidence, the New York Times wrote:
'The evidence remaining is sparse.'
11. On the evening of February 28, 1944, Radio Moscow reported about German atrocities in Kyiv. They come up with another method of murder:[22]
'More than 195,000 Soviet citizens were tortured to death, shot, or poisoned in murder vans by the Germans during the occupation of Kyiv.'
• Date? Place? The number of victims has grown to almost 200,000, which would make it even easier to secure evidence. Why was this not done?
• 'Gas vans' are a very questionable killing method and are absent in later sources.[4],[5]
4. Eyewitness Accounts
1. In November 1943, one 'Aloshin' told W. H. Lawrence, reporter for the New York Times:[21],[23]
'[...] German troops [...] ordered them into the ravine, where they were directed to give up their valuables. Part of their clothing also was removed. Then [...] they were placed on a platform, machine-gunned and thrown into the ravine.'
• So now it was the Wehrmacht who were the killers. Does this fit in with the other reports, for example the 'Event Reports'?[24]
• How were the clothing and the valuables removed from the ravine?
• Mass murder on a platform? Why? And if so, then it would be possible for groups at most, not all at once. When was the platform built, and by whom?
• In a narrow, winding ravine, the line-ups of people to be executed cannot be very long. One cannot simply swing the machine gun/s in any large angle one might wish to, without endangering one's own people, without losing accuracy and penetration at oblique angles, and without facilitating the escape of some of the victims.
• The bodies must be removed as the groups are executed, otherwise they would result in an enormous pile. If one allows ten minutes for the undressing, shooting and removal of the bodies from each group of at most 100 people, then the murder would have taken at least 83 hours.
• How is it possible to lead the victims into the ravine and then throw them into that same ravine after shooting them?
• In late September dusk comes relatively early in Kyiv. On September 29 it rained heavily, all the roads were soggy, on the 30th it rained and snowed and road conditions grew even worse.[25] Since it is impossible to execute groups of any appreciable size in the dark, the murder could have been carried out only during the daylight hours, i.e., it would have taken more than a week. Bright floodlights are not an option in wartime, especially near the front - and with partisans in the vicinity. And Wiehn[26] raves about beautiful September days!
2. Vilkis, a Jew born in Odessa, reports:[13],[27]
'[...] a near-by Jewish cemetery, where marble grave markers were removed and brought to Babi Yar, where they formed crude stoves [...] but (the bodies) did not burn well because of lack of draft.'
• Vilkis goes on to claim that the Germans sent prisoners into the cemetery to get the iron rails from the graves, which were then used to construct cremation grates. During the cremation the Germans had also brought other victims in murder vans in which they had been asphyxiated. These too, he contends, were cremated.
• People and transportation are required to move marble grave markers. Why has no one ever searched for these grave stones as evidence?
• How many such oven gratings would one need to construct in order to cremate that many bodies in so crude a manner? Would it even work at all?
• Where did the enormous quantities of fuel come from? Based on findings from India - the only country where bodies are cremated in the manner under discussion here - we note:
To achieve a marginally adequate, but nevertheless still only partial cremation, 200,000 bodies would require at least 51 million pounds of firewood - a pile 3 ft. high, 3 ft. wide and 34 miles long. Who cut this firewood, and where? How was this huge quantity transported? Who carried the countless bodies to the cremation site? Who removed the remains? Where are the witnesses from among this veritable army of laborers? The claim that cremation gratings were constructed from graveside rails is even less credible; these gratings would have collapsed almost immediately due to the heat.
3. The unnamed son-in-law of one Chaim Shapiro who was taken to Babi Yar recounts:[13]
'At the cemetery the Jews were forced to undress. Fifty six thousand (56,000) Jews were slaughtered. Those who did not die instantly were buried alive. [...]
[...] on the tenth day [after the shooting] we were driven to Lukianova [Babi Yar] ravine. We stood there panic-stricken. From beneath the freshly strewn earth streamed rivers of blood, the blood of 56,000 murdered Jews. It cried to us from under the earth. My hair turned gray that morning.'
• From where does Chaim Shapiro's son-in-law get his information? What is his name, anyhow? Why was he not among the victims? After all, wasn't everyone allegedly killed? What was the date? Where is the murder site? Why is the place where the victims undressed not the same as the other witnesses claim?
• What would a forensic doctor say about the rivers of blood allegedly streaming from bodies killed ten days earlier?
• The part about the blood crying from the earth is from the Bible; in Genesis 4:10 we read:
'The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.'
• Can hair spontaneously turn gray?
• Were Jews forcibly driven to the site of the mass murder in order to produce witnesses?
4. In E. R. Wiehn's book, L. Levitas[28] tells of one Riva Kogut, who was later known as Raissa Genrichovna
