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You are no taller than Bilge or Bluebeard; and you are no wiser. Their wisdom, such as it was, perished with them: so did their strength, if their strength ever existed outside your imagination. I do not know how old you are: you look about five hundred⁠— The Elderly Gentleman Five hundred! Really, madam⁠— Zoo Continuing.⁠—but I know, of course, that you are an ordinary short-liver. Well, your wisdom is only such wisdom as a man can have before he has had experience enough to distinguish his wisdom from his folly, his destiny from his delusions, his⁠— The Elderly Gentleman In short, such wisdom as your own. Zoo No, no, no, no. How often must I tell you that we are made wise not by the recollections of our past, but by the responsibilities of our future. I shall be more reckless when I am a tertiary than I am today. If you cannot understand that, at least you must admit that I have learnt from tertiaries. I have seen their work and lived under their institutions. Like all young things I rebelled against them; and in their hunger for new lights and new ideas they listened to me and encouraged me to rebel. But my ways did not work; and theirs did; and they were able to tell me why. They have no power over me except that power: they refuse all other power; and the consequence is that there are no limits to their power except the limits they set themselves. You are a child governed by children, who make so many mistakes and are so naughty that you are in continual rebellion against them; and as they can never convince you that they are right: they can govern you only by beating you, imprisoning you, torturing you, killing you if you disobey them without being strong enough to kill or torture them. The Elderly Gentleman That may be an unfortunate fact. I condemn it and deplore it. But our minds are greater than the facts. We know better. The greatest ancient teachers, followed by the galaxy of Christs who arose in the twentieth century, not to mention such comparatively modern spiritual leaders as Blitherinjam, Tosh, and Spiffkins, all taught that punishment and revenge, coercion and militarism, are mistakes, and that the golden rule⁠— Zoo Interrupting. Yes, yes, yes, Daddy: we long-lived people know that quite well. But did any of their disciples ever succeed in governing you for a single day on their Christ-like principles? It is not enough to know what is good: you must be able to do it. They couldn’t do it because they did not live long enough to find out how to do it, or to outlive the childish passions that prevented them from really wanting to do it. You know very well that they could only keep order⁠—such as it was⁠—by the very coercion and militarism they were denouncing and deploring. They had actually to kill one another for preaching their own gospel, or be killed themselves. The Elderly Gentleman The blood of the martyrs, madam, is the seed of the Church. Zoo More images, Daddy! The blood of the short-lived falls on stony ground. The Elderly Gentleman Rising, very testy. You are simply mad on the subject of longevity. I wish you would change it. It is rather personal and in bad taste. Human nature is human nature, long-lived or short-lived, and always will be. Zoo Then you give up the idea of progress? You cry off the torch, and the brick, and the acorn, and all the rest of it? The Elderly Gentleman I do nothing of the sort. I stand for progress and for freedom broadening down from precedent to precedent. Zoo You are certainly a true Briton. The Elderly Gentleman I am proud of it. But in your mouth I feel that the compliment hides some insult; so I do not thank you for it. Zoo All I meant was that though Britons sometimes say quite clever things and deep things as well as silly and shallow things, they always forget them ten minutes after they have uttered them. The Elderly Gentleman Leave it at that, madam: leave it at that. He sits down again. Even a Pope is not expected to be continually pontificating. Our flashes of inspiration show that our hearts are in the right place. Zoo Of course. You cannot keep your heart in any place but the right place. The Elderly Gentleman Tcha! Zoo But you can keep your hands in the wrong place. In your neighbor’s pockets, for example. So, you see, it is your hands that really matter. The Elderly Gentleman Exhausted. Well, a woman must have the last word. I will not dispute it with you. Zoo Good. Now let us go back to the really interesting subject of our discussion. You remember? The slavery of the short-lived to images and metaphors. The Elderly Gentleman Aghast. Do you mean to say, madam, that after having talked my head off, and reduced me to despair and silence by your intolerable loquacity, you actually propose to begin all over again? I shall leave you at once. Zoo You must not. I am your nurse; and you must stay with me. The Elderly Gentleman I absolutely decline to do anything of the sort. He rises and walks away with marked dignity. Zoo Using her tuning-fork. Zoo on Burrin Pier to Oracle Police at Ennistymon have you got me?⁠ ⁠… What?⁠ ⁠… I am picking you up now but you are flat to my pitch.⁠ ⁠… Just a shade sharper.⁠ ⁠… That’s better: still a little more.⁠ ⁠… Got you: right. Isolate Burrin Pier quick. The Elderly Gentleman Is heard to yell. Oh! Zoo Still intoning. Thanks.⁠ ⁠… Oh nothing serious I am nursing a short-liver and the silly creature has run away he has discouraged himself very badly by gadding about and talking to secondaries and I must keep him strictly to heel. The Elderly Gentleman returns, indignant. Zoo Here he is you can release the Pier thanks. Goodbye. She puts up her tuning-fork.