Q. Why were you in civilian clothing?
A. I am in a plainclothes assignment.
Q. You do not then normally wear a uniform on duty?
A. No, sir.
Q. With what type weapon were you armed?
A. A Smith amp; Wesson Undercover revolver.
Q. That is a five-shot.38 Special caliber short-nosed revolver?
A. Correct.
Q. Was that weapon issued to you by the Police Department for use in your official duties?
A. No.
Q. Where did you get that revolver?
A. Colosimo's Gun Store.
Q. That revolver is your personal property?
A. Yes.
Q. Have you been issued a revolver or other weapon by the Police Department for use in your duties?
A. Yes.
Q. Since you were on duty, why were you not carrying that weapon?
A. I have permission to carry the Undercover.
Q. From whom?
A. From Inspector Wohl.
Q. For what purpose?
A. It's easier to conceal, more concealable, than the Police Special.
Q. The Police Special being the.38 Special Caliber Smith amp; Wesson Military and Police revolver with four- inch barrel issued to you by the Police Department?
A. Yes.
Q. Have you undergone any official instruction, testing, and/or qualification involving the Smith amp; Wesson Undercover revolver with which you were armed on January 3 of this year?
A. I went through the prescribed course at the Police Firearms Range before I was authorized to carry the Undercover revolver.
Q. With what type of cartridge was your Undercover revolver loaded at the time and date we're talking about?
A. Standard Remington.38 Special cartridges, with a 158-grain round nose lead bullet.
Q. Where did you get that ammunition?
A: It was issued to me.
Q. It is the standard ammunition prescribed by regulation for the Undercover revolver?
A. So far as I know, for both of them. The Military and Police and the Undercover.
Q. What were your specific orders in regard to Mr. O'Hara?
A. Inspector Wohl told me to take Mr. O'Hara to Lieutenant Suffern.
Q. That is Lieutenant Edward J. Suffern, who is assigned to Special Operations?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Go on.
A. Inspector Wohl told me to take Mr. O'Hara to Lieutenant Suffern, and to tell him that he had authorized Mr. O'Hara to accompany Lieutenant Suffern during the arrest, but that Mr. O'Hara was not to enter the building where Stevens was until he had been arrested.
Q. Who is Stevens?
A. Charles David Stevens. Also known as Abu Ben Mohammed. A warrant had been issued for his arrest in connection with an armed robbery and murder at Goldblatt's furniture store.
Q. Were you charged with serving this warrant?
A. No. It was to be served by a Homicide detective, backed up by men under Lieutenant Suffern.
Q. You took Mr. O'Hara to Lieutenant Suffern?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And then what happened?
A. Lieutenant Suffern said that Mr. O'Hara and myself should accompany him. When the time came, we got in his car and went with him.
Q. Where did you go with Lieutenant Suffern in his car?
A. To the alley behind Stevens's house.
Q. I now show you a map of the Frankford area of Philadelphia. Would you please mark on the map where you were taken by Lieutenant Suffern?
A. All right. (See Map marked as Attachment I.)
Q. And then what happened?
A. Mr. O'Hara got out of the car.
Q. Why, if you know, did Mr. O'Hara get out of the car?
A. He said he didn't want his camera lens to become fogged as he was afraid it might if he jumped out of the car when the arrest was made.
Q. Go on.
A. I got out of the car too.
Q. Did you have Lieutenant Suffern's permission to do so?
A. My orders were to accompany Mr. O'Hara. So I got out of the car too.
Q. What comment, if any, did Lieutenant Suffern have about either of you getting out of the car?
A. I seem to recall he told Mickey, Mr. O'Hara, to stick close to the wall.
Q. What, if anything, did you or Mr. O'Hara do at this time?
A. Mr. O'Hara wiped the lens of his camera with his handkerchief.
Q. And what, if anything, happened next?
A. I heard noise, what sounded like wood breaking, in the alley in the direction of Stevens's house. After a moment, I detected movement in the alley.
Q. Had you, at that time, drawn your weapon?
A. Not drawn it. I had taken it from my ankle holster and put it in my overcoat pocket.
Q. Your weapon, was it in sight or not?
A. No. It was not.
Q. Why did you take your weapon from its holster and put it in your pocket?
A. Because I thought I could get at it easier that way if I needed it.
Q. Then you anticipated having need of your weapon?
A. No. I was just being careful.
(Chief Inspectors Lowenstein and Coughlin became additional witnesses to the interrogation at this point.)
Q. Did Mr. O'Hara see you take your weapon from your ankle holster?
A. I don't know if he did or not.
Q. How about Lieutenant Suffern?
A. I don't know. I don't believe so.
Q. Go on.
A. Where were we?
Q. You and Mr. O'Hara were in the alley, you said. You said you detected movement.
A. Okay. I realized that what I was seeing was a man coming in my direction. So I called to him to stop.
Q. Did you identify yourself as a police officer?
A. I said, Stop. Police officer.
Q. At this time, did you recognize the person in the alley as Mr. Charles D. Stevens?
A. No.
Q. Had you, previous to this occasion, ever seen Mr. Charles D. Stevens?
A. No.
